TT na BB - proti UTG +1 raise, MP short push - PUSH or FOLD?

[SitkaCZ]

Game #1111111111 starts.

***** Hand History for Game 11740025230 *****

NL Texas Hold'em $11 USD Buy-in Trny:69334272 Level:11 Blinds-Antes(250/500 -50) - Saturday, May 12, 22:34:36 CEST 2012

Table $10,000 Gtd Rebuy (2608589) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10/10
Seat 1: BTN (17816 in chips) [35.63bb]
Seat 2: SB (4416 in chips) [8.83bb]
Seat 3: BB (24844 in chips) [49.69bb]
Seat 4: EP1 (10239 in chips) [20.48bb]
Seat 5: EP2 (14341 in chips) [28.68bb]
Seat 6: EP3 (8008 in chips) [16.02bb]
Seat 7: MP1 (15071 in chips) [30.14bb]
Seat 8: MP2 (12440 in chips) [24.88bb]
Seat 9: MP3 (19285 in chips) [38.57bb]
Seat 10: CO (27895 in chips) [55.79bb]
Trny:69334272 Level:11
Blinds-Antes(250/500 -50)
Seat 1 BTN posts ante [50]
Seat 2 SB posts ante [50]
Seat 3 BB posts ante [50]
Seat 4 EP1 posts ante [50]
Seat 5 EP2 posts ante [50]
Seat 6 EP3 posts ante [50]
Seat 7 MP1 posts ante [50]
Seat 8 MP2 posts ante [50]
Seat 9 MP3 posts ante [50]
Seat 10 CO posts ante [50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero (Seat 8)
Seat 9 MP3 folds
Seat 10 CO raises [1,375]
Seat 1 BTN folds
Seat 2 SB is all-In [4,366]
Seat 3 BB folds
Seat 4 EP1 folds
Seat 5 EP2 folds
Seat 6 EP3 folds
Seat 7 MP1 folds
Hero is all-In [11,890]
Seat 10 CO calls [11,015]
** Dealing Flop **
** Dealing Turn **
** Dealing River **
Seat 10 CO shows two pairs, Kings and Threes.
Seat 2 SB shows two pairs, Sevens and Threes.
Hero shows a full house, Tens full of Threes.
Hero wins 16,048 chips from the side pot 1 with a full house, Tens full of Threes.
Hero wins 13,848 chips from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of Threes.
Player Seat 2 SB finished in 156.

[LudvikCS]

heh, chcel som tipovať push CO s AK ale už som nestihol

[spiritmonger]

Alkaci, ale je tam jeste ten shortstack. Co kdyz ten utg raisor callne pf, na flopu foldne a pak prohrajes stejne celej pot s tim shortem? To by znamenalo, ze z ty "chyby", co by udelal prvni raisor treba callem AJ pf a foldem na nizkym boardu, bude tezit taky dost ten short, ne?

[spiritmonger]

Ja bych to taky poslal. Ten call stejne vypada silnejc nez repush podle me v ocich toho utg+1 raisora. Pri repushi si zase muze rict ze mame AK a dat to s nizsim parem.

[alkaatch]

Jo ten short z toho tezit bude taky, ale s tim sem nahore pocital - ono s tim se neda nic delat, s tim shortem to musim tak jako tak vytocit a takhle to bude o vetsi pot. Mozna by pomohlo to cely poradne rozpocitat, ja jsem to delal jen tak z hlavy jak bych to resil behem hry. Nahodte treba dva nejaky scenare (souper spis folduje vs spis repushuje) a muzeme u kazdyho rozpocitat ty equity. V podstate nas zajimaji jenom situace kdy mas souper nejakou stredne silnou handu jako treba to AQ.99atd. Kdyz bude mit JJ+ nebo AK tak se to nijak nemeni a kdyz bude mit neco vylozene slabyho tak taky ne (call je teda lepsi protoze mu to porad dava sanci udelat picovinu).

Jinak nevim jestli to s tim ze si po mojem repushi souper rekne "ma AK, takze moje 66 jsou call..." je nejak relevantni.Spis bude premejslet nejak jako ma AQ+88+, prece me nebude davat na jednu handu.... To uz by sme moc levelovaly co si rekne souper kdyz stejne o nem nic moc nevime. Stejne tak ten call nekdo muze vnimat silne a slozi treba AQ nebo neco, ale pokud folduje silny handy protoze jsem callnul tak na tom urcite neztracim....Jinej to zase bude vnimat jako slabost a preposle me mnohem vic loose a na tom taky vydelam.

Je to vlastne takovy GoAndGo v trochu jinym havu.

[A_Rimmer]

Este 2 doplnujuce otazky na Alkaatcha.

Su tie desinky bottom tvojej range, s ktorou takto zahras? Mam namysli, co napr. urobis s rukami 99-, povedzme AJs, AQo, AK?

Druha otazka: Su nejake ruky ktore rovno pushnes (nebudes callovat)?

Dik za odpovede.

[alkaatch]

AK,AQ bych rovnou poslal a nejspis i nejaky 77. 99 bych hral jako TT, 88 asi jeste taky.
S tema AK,AQ,77 mam sanci ze souper foldne treba 88,99 a s AQ ani nechci vyvolat nejake repush od 44 atd