pár hand z 5ky

[2player2]

(1)
BB: 240 hand, 11/8, 3bet 6.5, AF 2
CO: 750 hand, 14/11, fold tu 3bet 60, fold tu cbet 87
Týpek na CO tady dost často složí a kdyby ne, tak ne cbet taky skládá hodně často. Bohužel mě callne BB a na tomdle flopu do mě donkuje. Ten muj raise na flopu se mi moc nezdá, sice když mě přetočí, mám supr odds na call, ale nevim..
PokerStars Hand #85725486920: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/09/05 13:08:25 CET [2012/09/05 7:08:25 ET]
Table 'Olshaniya' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: BB (5.46 in chips) [109.2bb]
Seat 3: MP2 (6.1 in chips) [122bb]
Seat 4: MP3 (5 in chips) [100bb]
Seat 6: CO (12.04 in chips) [240.8bb]
Seat 8: BTN (5 in chips) [100bb] - Hero
Seat 9: SB (7.52 in chips) [150.4bb]
Seat 9 SB: posts small blind $0.02
Seat 1 BB: posts big blind $0.05
hiebsch87: sits out
ronan33: sits out
jep18: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 8) - Hero
Seat 3 MP2: folds
Seat 4 MP3: folds
Seat 6 CO: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Hero: raises $0.30 to $0.45 - Hero
Seat 9 SB: folds
Seat 1 BB: calls $0.40
Seat 6 CO: folds
*** FLOP ***
Seat 1 BB: bets $0.55
Hero: raises $1.15 to $1.70 - Hero
Seat 1 BB: raises $3.31 to $5.01 and is all-in
Hero: calls $2.85 and is all-in - Hero
Uncalled bet ($0.46) returned to Seat 1 BB
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat 1 BB: shows (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Hero: shows (a flush, Ace high) - Hero
Hero collected $9.75 from pot - Hero
Board
Seat 1: BB (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 8: Hero (button) showed and won ($9.75) with a flush, Ace high - Hero
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(2)
MP: 200 hand, 17/11, AF 1.6, cbet 89, turn cbet 75 22
CO: 140 hand, 17/11, 3bet 0, AF 1.5, fold to cbet 75
Raise flop?
PokerStars Hand #85773883921: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/09/06 13:15:38 CET [2012/09/06 7:15:38 ET]
Table 'Paris IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MP3 (4.93 in chips) [98.6bb] - Hero
Seat 2: CO (5 in chips) [100bb]
Seat 3: BTN (5.08 in chips) [101.6bb]
Seat 4: SB (3.48 in chips) [69.6bb]
Seat 5: BB (5.07 in chips) [101.4bb]
Seat 6: EP1 (1.94 in chips) [38.8bb]
Seat 7: EP2 (3.65 in chips) [73bb]
Seat 8: MP1 (3.86 in chips) [77.2bb]
Seat 9: MP2 (6.46 in chips) [129.2bb]
Seat 4 SB: posts small blind $0.02
Seat 5 BB: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) - Hero
Seat 6 EP1: folds
Seat 7 EP2: folds
Seat 8 MP1: folds
Seat 9 MP2: raises $0.15 to $0.20
Hero: calls $0.20 - Hero
Seat 2 CO: calls $0.20
Seat 3 BTN: folds
Seat 4 SB: folds
Seat 5 BB: folds
*** FLOP ***
Seat 9 MP2: bets $0.48
Hero: calls $0.48 - Hero
Seat 2 CO: folds
*** TURN ***
Seat 9 MP2: bets $1
Hero: calls $1 - Hero
*** RIVER ***
Seat 9 MP2: checks
Hero: bets $1.40 - Hero
Seat 9 MP2: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.40) returned to Hero - Hero
Hero collected $3.48 from pot - Hero
Hero: doesn't show hand - Hero
Board
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(3)
80 hand, 21/27, AF 2.6
Neměl sem to na tom turnu složit? Kdyby ho to eso trefilo, zahrál by to takle vubec??
PokerStars Hand #85823626962: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/09/07 14:16:02 CET [2012/09/07 8:16:02 ET]
Table 'Brambilla II' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SB (7.29 in chips) [145.8bb]
Seat 2: BB (5.07 in chips) [101.4bb]
Seat 3: EP1 (4.12 in chips) [82.4bb]
Seat 4: EP2 (7.06 in chips) [141.2bb]
Seat 5: MP1 (3.45 in chips) [69bb]
Seat 6: MP2 (4.78 in chips) [95.6bb] - Hero
Seat 7: MP3 (5.01 in chips) [100.2bb]
Seat 8: CO (6.18 in chips) [123.6bb]
Seat 9: BTN (2.82 in chips) [56.4bb]
Seat 1 SB: posts small blind $0.02
Seat 2 BB: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 6) - Hero
Seat 3 EP1: folds
Seat 4 EP2: folds
Seat 5 MP1: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Hero: raises $0.30 to $0.45 - Hero
Seat 7 MP3: folds
Seat 8 CO: folds
Seat 9 BTN: folds
Seat 1 SB: folds
Seat 2 BB: folds
Seat 5 MP1: calls $0.30
*** FLOP ***
Seat 5 MP1: checks
Hero: checks - Hero
*** TURN ***
Seat 5 MP1: checks
Hero: bets $0.55 - Hero
Seat 5 MP1: raises $0.85 to $1.40
Hero is connected - Hero
Hero: raises $2.93 to $4.33 and is all-in - Hero
Seat 5 MP1: calls $1.60 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.33) returned to Hero - Hero
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat 5 MP1: shows (three of a kind, Deuces)
Hero: mucks hand - Hero
Seat 5 MP1 collected $6.68 from pot
Board
Seat 5: MP1 showed and won ($6.68) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 6: Hero mucked - Hero
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(4)
400 hand, 11/8, CO steal 20, AF 1.4, cbet 80, WtSH 24
Týpek má sice malej AF, ale cbet 80, takže čekám, že tu bude cbetovat celou svoji range a pořád by tu měl zahodit hrozně moc karet, takže by se to mělo vyplatit. A otázka je, betovat turn? Dokáže tedle hráč zahodit svuj TPTK?
PokerStars Hand #85822600288: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/09/07 13:43:13 CET [2012/09/07 7:43:13 ET]
Table 'Fidelio II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: BB (5 in chips) [100bb] - Hero
Seat 2: EP1 (7.31 in chips) [146.2bb]
Seat 4: MP1 (2.07 in chips) [41.4bb]
Seat 5: MP2 (5.82 in chips) [116.4bb]
Seat 6: MP3 (3.69 in chips) [73.8bb]
Seat 7: CO (5 in chips) [100bb]
Seat 8: BTN (6.07 in chips) [121.4bb]
Seat 9: SB (4.95 in chips) [99bb]
Seat 9 SB: posts small blind $0.02
Seat 1 BB: posts big blind $0.05 - Hero
Marinus221: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) - Hero
Seat 2 EP1: folds
Seat 4 MP1: folds
Seat 5 MP2: folds
Seat 6 MP3: folds
Seat 7 CO: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Seat 8 BTN: folds
Seat 9 SB: folds
Hero: calls $0.10 - Hero
*** FLOP ***
Hero: checks - Hero
Seat 7 CO: bets $0.23
Hero: raises $0.47 to $0.70 - Hero
Seat 7 CO: calls $0.47
*** TURN ***
Hero: bets $1 - Hero
Seat 7 CO: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Hero: checks - Hero
Seat 7 CO: bets $1.70
Hero: folds - Hero
Uncalled bet ($1.70) returned to Seat 7 CO
Seat 7 CO collected $3.57 from pot
Seat 7 CO: doesn't show hand
Board

[Tadoch]

1) vypada to divne no. docela casto bych se tu bal nejakyho setu/overparu a nebyl bych ze stackoutu nejak odvarenej, ale porad to asi nebude nejaka velka chyba a proti vsemu mas equity dobrou. jenom bych si uz myslel, ze nezahodi. za pul potu bych to callnul a zkusil to jeste trefit

2) jo, asi by to slo. ten call ma tu nevyhodu, ze vlastne vsechny tvoje outy delaj board pro soupere extremne neprijemnym. ale uprimne netusim, jestli bych se tu chtel po raisu stacknout a spis asi ne. neporazel bys nic a hralo by se to jenom na ty potodds. skoro by mi ale ani nevadilo to rovnou zahodit... je to takovy divny, ale fakt se bude pri hitu dostavat value hodne blbe a navic hodne casto barreluje turn a moc bych nevedel, co tam budu delat pri missu a handa to fakt neni nejaka uzasna...

3) uf, tohle je tezky. asi neni az tak dobrej ten 3bet allin na turnu, protoze souper repuje ten set a s nic moc horsim te tu necallne. a jestli ma AQ treba, tak to stejne asi odevzda na riveru, takze neni az tak potreba to tady posilat proti nemu. asi by se to zahodit dalo, ale v praxi nevim, jestli bych to udelal. je to ale asi bezpecny a zas to nebude nejaka velka chyba, jestli vubec. ty c/r na micros jsou vzdycky silene silna line a na turnu obzvlast.

4) turn bych nechal uz bejt. vubec bych nezkousel kohokoliv dostat z jeho top paru a jestli ma nejakyho slabsiho K, tak snad checkne turn behind a dostanes freekartu. a jestli betne, nechal bych to proste bejt a bral bych to na to, ze tvoje akce na flopu byla urcite ziskova, bohuzel to ted nevyslo

[2player2]

2) nevěděl sem, co udělá hráč za mnou, kdyby to znova raisnul, tak bych to asi musel shodit. Sice mi to přišlo, ale board byl fakt scary. Aspoň sem od nědo dostal další sázku na turnu, na riveru bylo jasný, že má ňákej overpair a ukízal esa. Ale zahodit?? Sice když to příde, tak je to scary, ale zas mám odds na ty svoje outy, zahodit by se mi to fakt nechtělo. A máš pravdu, stacknou bych se s nim asi nechtěl, 17/11 to určitě bude v jeho rangi set 77ček 99tek TTtek, kdyby tam byly i esa a kingy, tak sem hodně pozadu.

3) na tom turnu to je hodně nepříjemný, ale po tom, co sem checknul flop, tak... no zase sem nepochopil tu akci od soupeře. Pokud blafuju a to A nemám a zkoušim to jen sebrat, tak proč mě raisuje, stejně ze mě už nic nedostane. A pokud to A mám, tak betnu i river. Board neni ňák scary. Callnout sem to nechtěl, protože bych pak stejně musel call i river, taxem to točil.

4) cBety skoro nikdy neraisuju a je to chyba, když se v tom pak pošťourám, tak zjistim, že to je fakt ziskový a v některejch případech ani nemusim mít v ruce vubec nic!

Díky Tadoch!