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  od Vocaaas
 stř 27. úno 2013 1:28:06
Jo promin to AK. Myslim ze s tou sehravkou asi nebude problem. Mozna bych mene betnul turn abych nebudoval tak velky pot. jinak to byl hodne disciplinovany fold a myslim, ze i spravny. Limp/callovat mohl samozrejme male pary, ci kterykoli jiny nesmysl. Runner flushe bych se moc nebal, samozrejme se to stava, ale floatovat flop na backdoor fd je uz super fishy. Dal mohl mit klidne set. Obcas tenhle over shove byva posledni zoufaly pokus od fishe urvat pot, ale ze svych zkusenosti jsem se hodnekrat presvedcil, ze tem hajzlikum to vetsinou dojde :D Takze pro tebe myslim neni duvod se vysypat evidentne do ryby hned v prvnim levelu.

I kdyz zase vsechno z toho, co te porazi vypada znacne nepravdepodobne. Na to pak funguje maximalne sledovat konkretniho playera, jeslti to dela casteji a zda je to projev sily nebo slabosti.
Naposledy upravil(a) Vocaaas dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Vocaaas
 stř 27. úno 2013 10:01:34
T-fon píše:Kdyz uz Vocaaas zminil ty kluky z 1 table SnG, ktery by v te druhe handa asi foldnuli.... tam je raise BS a po nem jeste call, takze resteal do dvou hracu se 77 bez FE tady imo vychazet nebude....
jo tak já píšu, že tam se s foldem nedá počítat. Že bych to vzal jako dobrý spot pro double.
Naposledy upravil(a) Vocaaas dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od ježišmarjáá
 úte 26. bře 2013 15:17:53
tohle me pravidelne srazi na kolena..:)PokerStars Hand #96172732051: Tournament #709687485, $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2013/03/26 14:42:45 CET [2013/03/26 9:42:45 ET]
Table '709687485 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CO (1315 in chips) [26.3bb]
Seat 2: BTN (2980 in chips) [59.6bb]
Seat 3: SB (1335 in chips) [26.7bb] - Hero
Seat 4: BB (2969 in chips) [59.38bb]
Seat 6: EP1 (1825 in chips) [36.5bb]
Seat 7: MP1 (5295 in chips) [105.9bb]
Seat 8: MP2 (2900 in chips) [58bb]
Seat 9: MP3 (823 in chips) [16.46bb]
Seat 3 SB: posts small blind 25 - Hero
Seat 4 BB: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 3) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 6 EP1: folds
Seat 7 MP1: calls 50
Seat 8 MP2: folds
Seat 9 MP3: calls 50
Seat 1 CO: folds
Seat 2 BTN: folds
Hero: raises 125 to 175
Seat 4 BB: folds
Seat 7 MP1: calls 125
Seat 9 MP3: raises 648 to 823 and is all-in
Hero: raises 512 to 1335 and is all-in
Seat 7 MP1: folds
Uncalled bet (512) returned to Hero
*** FLOP *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** TURN *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** RIVER *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows Obrázek Obrázek (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Seat 9 MP3: shows Obrázek Obrázek (three of a kind, Kings)
Seat 9 MP3 collected 1871 from pot
Board Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) showed Obrázek Obrázek and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 9: MP3 showed Obrázek Obrázek and won (1871) with three of a kind, Kings


a ted co jsem chtel..call/fold??
PokerStars Hand #96173895562: Tournament #709688818, $1.08+$0.27+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/03/26 15:12:05 CET [2013/03/26 10:12:05 ET]
Table '709688818 6' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: BB (2725 in chips) [27.25bb]
Seat 3: EP1 (3980 in chips) [39.8bb]
Seat 4: MP1 (3240 in chips) [32.4bb]
Seat 5: MP2 (1130 in chips) [11.3bb]
Seat 6: MP3 (3339 in chips) [33.39bb]
Seat 7: CO (1195 in chips) [11.95bb]
Seat 8: BTN (1500 in chips) [15bb]
Seat 9: SB (2330 in chips) [23.3bb] - Hero
Seat 9 SB: posts small blind 50 - Hero
Seat 1 BB: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 9) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 3 EP1: folds
Seat 4 MP1: folds
Seat 5 MP2: folds
Seat 6 MP3: folds
Seat 7 CO: folds
Seat 8 BTN: raises 1400 to 1500 and is all-in
??
Naposledy upravil(a) ježišmarjáá dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od medvidek98
 úte 26. bře 2013 15:35:22
priklanim se k foldu protoze ve hre nejsou ante a za mnou je dalsi hrac a i kdyz dam souperi pro tebe dost priznivou range 99-22,A9s-A2s,KTs-K5s,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,ATo-A2o,KTo,QTo+,JTo
tak mas 51%
obecne si myslim ze tohle ale openpushovat hodne lidi za 15BB neumi

call bych dal pokud by ve hre byli ante a vim ze hrac patri k aktivnim bez ante jen do magora

neslozil bych A9 a A8s 55+ u A8o a A7s bych premyslel jestli ten borec neco hral nebo nehral do ted prakticky nic
Naposledy upravil(a) medvidek98 dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 2 x.
  od ježišmarjáá
 úte 26. bře 2013 15:37:41
totalni ulet ode me, ale pan z ruska staty 76/8, hral silene, Ax by raisnul preflop, mozna barva, ale on by my ani neminraisnul FD....no proste parada!!!PokerStars Hand #96174450863: Tournament #709688818, $1.08+$0.27+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/26 15:24:41 CET [2013/03/26 10:24:41 ET]
Table '709688818 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CO (3455 in chips) [23.03bb]
Seat 2: BTN (4685 in chips) [31.23bb]
Seat 3: SB (4630 in chips) [30.87bb] - Hero
Seat 4: BB (4420 in chips) [29.47bb]
Seat 6: EP1 (2760 in chips) [18.4bb]
Seat 7: MP1 (1928 in chips) [12.85bb]
Seat 8: MP2 (1495 in chips) [9.97bb]
Seat 9: MP3 (1685 in chips) [11.23bb]
Seat 3 SB: posts small blind 75 - Hero
Seat 4 BB: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 3) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 6 EP1: folds
Seat 7 MP1: folds
Seat 8 MP2: folds
Seat 9 MP3: folds
Seat 1 CO: calls 150
Seat 2 BTN: folds
Hero: raises 300 to 450
Seat 4 BB: folds
Seat 1 CO is disconnected
Seat 1 CO is connected
Seat 1 CO: calls 300
*** FLOP *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
Hero: bets 375
Seat 1 CO: raises 375 to 750
Hero: calls 375
*** TURN *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
Hero: checks
Seat 1 CO: bets 2255 and is all-in
Hero: calls 2255
*** RIVER *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows Obrázek Obrázek (a pair of Kings)
Seat 1 CO: shows Obrázek Obrázek (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
Seat 1 CO collected 7060 from pot
Board Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 1: CO showed Obrázek Obrázek and won (7060) with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) showed Obrázek Obrázek and lost with a pair of Kings
Naposledy upravil(a) ježišmarjáá dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od ježišmarjáá
 úte 26. bře 2013 15:44:06
medvidek98 píše:priklanim se k foldu protoze ve hre nejsou ante a za mnou je dalsi hrac a i kdyz dam souperi pro tebe dost priznivou range 99-22,A9s-A2s,KTs-K5s,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,ATo-A2o,KTo,QTo+,JTo
tak mas 51%
obecne si myslim ze tohle ale openpushovat hodne lidi za 15BB neumi

call bych dal pokud by ve hre byli ante a vim ze hrac patri k aktivnim bez ante jen do magora

neslozil bych A9 a A8s 55+ u A8o a A7s bych premyslel jestli ten borec neco hral nebo nehral do ted prakticky nic
na stole sem byl novej, a hned do me pushnul, jak rikas hranicni, suited by bylo lepsi, udelal sem to nejhorsi, pze se to mel pushnout taky vuci BB...PokerStars Hand #96173895562: Tournament #709688818, $1.08+$0.27+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/03/26 15:12:05 CET [2013/03/26 10:12:05 ET]
Table '709688818 6' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: BB (2725 in chips) [27.25bb]
Seat 3: EP1 (3980 in chips) [39.8bb]
Seat 4: MP1 (3240 in chips) [32.4bb]
Seat 5: MP2 (1130 in chips) [11.3bb]
Seat 6: MP3 (3339 in chips) [33.39bb]
Seat 7: CO (1195 in chips) [11.95bb]
Seat 8: BTN (1500 in chips) [15bb]
Seat 9: SB (2330 in chips) [23.3bb] - Hero
Seat 9 SB: posts small blind 50 - Hero
Seat 1 BB: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 9) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 3 EP1: folds
Seat 4 MP1: folds
Seat 5 MP2: folds
Seat 6 MP3: folds
Seat 7 CO: folds
Seat 8 BTN: raises 1400 to 1500 and is all-in
Hero: calls 1450
Seat 1 BB: folds
*** FLOP *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** TURN *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** RIVER *** Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows Obrázek Obrázek (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Seat 8 BTN: shows Obrázek Obrázek (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero collected 3100 from pot
Board Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 8: BTN (button) showed Obrázek Obrázek and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 9: Hero (small blind) showed Obrázek Obrázek and won (3100) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Naposledy upravil(a) ježišmarjáá dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od dobyvateL
 čtv 4. dub 2013 13:15:40
na villaina skoro ziadna vzorka 11/5/19hand.. ten 2.5x raise mi trochu smrdi, je tam ten short ale zase mam v podstate monster.. push/fold ?
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PokerStars Hand #96616452642: Tournament #713910735, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/04 0:00:30 CET [2013/04/03 18:00:30 ET]
Table '713910735 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MP3 (7450 in chips) [7.45bb]
Seat 2: CO (13140 in chips) [13.14bb] - Hero
Seat 3: BTN (505 in chips) [0.51bb]
Seat 4: SB (15390 in chips) [15.39bb]
Seat 6: BB (20710 in chips) [20.71bb]
Seat 7: MP2 (10305 in chips) [10.31bb]
Seat 1 MP3: posts the ante 60
Seat 2 CO: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 3 BTN: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 BB: posts the ante 60
Seat 7 MP2: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 6 BB: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 2) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 7 MP2: raises 1500 to 2500
Seat 1 MP3: folds
Hero: ??
limper 41/4/29hand ez push s 55, vzhladom k icm ?
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PokerStars Hand #96616488098: Tournament #713910735, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/04 0:01:17 CET [2013/04/03 18:01:17 ET]
Table '713910735 3' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: MP2 (7390 in chips) [7.39bb]
Seat 2: MP3 (13080 in chips) [13.08bb] - Hero
Seat 3: CO (2140 in chips) [2.14bb]
Seat 4: BTN (14830 in chips) [14.83bb]
Seat 6: SB (19650 in chips) [19.65bb]
Seat 7: BB (10410 in chips) [10.41bb]
Seat 1 MP2: posts the ante 60
Seat 2 MP3: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 3 CO: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 BTN: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 7 BB: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 7 BB: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 2) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 1 MP2: calls 1000
Hero: ??
Naposledy upravil(a) dobyvateL dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Shagy1710
 čtv 4. dub 2013 13:36:52
Nemyslim si ze nasa handa je monster. Ked tam ma range AA - JJ tak je lepsie A2s ako TT. Dokonca K2s bude lepsie ako TT. Ako reasteal bude dobry, pretoze jeho tam bude tlacit ICM a ked to short foldne tak nemoze hrat skoro nic. Ale zase je to 0.5$ sng kde takto ludia nerozmyslaju takze on ta tam snapne s AK co je pre vas oboch spatne. TAkze videl by som to na bezpecnejsiu cestu a to je fold.



55 Toto bez readu ze tam limpuje by som neposielal hlavne su tam dalsi 4 hraci. Dovod je ICM

Ak by ste isly len na chip EV tak tam poslem aj 22 s radostou, lebo mam FE + 22 maju stale aspon 40 % co mi bohato staci ;)
Naposledy upravil(a) Shagy1710 dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od dobyvateL
 čtv 4. dub 2013 14:38:23
Jou diky, pre info obidve handy som foldol. V tej prve mal villain QQ (callol to ten short), s tym vnimanim icm mas pravdu na tych 0.5$, tam je to divocina.

K tym 55 tiez to vnimam tak, btw limpol tam Q7o, sb to completol a vsetci check az do riveru :D
Na cEV tam obv posielam sirsie :)
Naposledy upravil(a) dobyvateL dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od dobyvateL
 čtv 4. dub 2013 19:01:12
tak mam tu znovu nejake handy...vysledky hand dam potom..

villain ziadne info okrem 16/15/85hand co vyzera solid (na tento limit obv :D)preto sa mi to zdalo trochu podozrive ten 2.5x open aj ked na tomto limite nic nezvycajne ale vacsinou to su manici typu 43/5, 33/0 atd. Aka je tu optimalna hra ? flat, push ? nerad to flatujem neviem preco, ale ked sa nato teraz pozeram asi to je celkom good. Na Ah boarde never fold obv, co v pripade ze pride nizky flop dajme tomu bez FD a donkne ez fold ?
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PokerStars Hand #96642497029: Tournament #714189389, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2013/04/04 16:11:10 CET [2013/04/04 10:11:10 ET]
Table '714189389 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MP3 (5970 in chips) [19.9bb] - Hero
Seat 2: CO (2580 in chips) [8.6bb]
Seat 3: BTN (9901 in chips) [33bb]
Seat 4: SB (3379 in chips) [11.26bb]
Seat 5: BB (2400 in chips) [8bb]
Seat 6: EP1 (3720 in chips) [12.4bb]
Seat 7: MP1 (3811 in chips) [12.7bb]
Seat 8: MP2 (4775 in chips) [15.92bb]
Seat 1 MP3: posts the ante 25 - Hero
Seat 2 CO: posts the ante 25
Seat 3 BTN: posts the ante 25
Seat 4 SB: posts the ante 25
Seat 5 BB: posts the ante 25
Seat 6 EP1: posts the ante 25
Seat 7 MP1: posts the ante 25
Seat 8 MP2: posts the ante 25
Seat 4 SB: posts small blind 150
Seat 5 BB: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 6 EP1: folds
Seat 7 MP1: folds
Seat 8 MP2: raises 450 to 750
Hero ??
ok push ? priama bubble, v tom momente stol celkom tight, vo wize to vyde +%EV ak im dam tight range napr. ze necallnu pary ako 55.66 alebo AJo co na tomto limite clovek nikdy nevie, ale je zname ze treba pushovat sirsie ako radi wizz, malo by to byt ok, hm ?
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PokerStars Hand #96643201364: Tournament #714189389, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2013/04/04 16:26:34 CET [2013/04/04 10:26:34 ET]
Table '714189389 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MP3 (5423 in chips) [6.78bb] - Hero
Seat 2: CO (14346 in chips) [17.93bb]
Seat 3: BTN (7424 in chips) [9.28bb]
Seat 4: SB (13103 in chips) [16.38bb]
Seat 5: BB (9450 in chips) [11.81bb]
Seat 6: EP1 (4440 in chips) [5.55bb]
Seat 7: MP1 (7244 in chips) [9.06bb]
Seat 9: MP2 (6070 in chips) [7.59bb]
Seat 1 MP3: posts the ante 50 - Hero
Seat 2 CO: posts the ante 50
Seat 3 BTN: posts the ante 50
Seat 4 SB: posts the ante 50
Seat 5 BB: posts the ante 50
Seat 6 EP1: posts the ante 50
Seat 7 MP1: posts the ante 50
Seat 9 MP2: posts the ante 50
Seat 4 SB: posts small blind 400
Seat 5 BB: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 6 EP1: folds
Seat 7 MP1: folds
Seat 9 MP2: folds
Hero: raises 4573 to 5373 and is all-in
o dve handy later..
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PokerStars Hand #96643250291: Tournament #714189389, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/04 16:27:39 CET [2013/04/04 10:27:39 ET]
Table '714189389 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: MP1 (6913 in chips) [6.91bb] - Hero
Seat 2: MP2 (14236 in chips) [14.24bb]
Seat 3: MP3 (7314 in chips) [7.31bb]
Seat 4: CO (12593 in chips) [12.59bb]
Seat 5: BTN (8040 in chips) [8.04bb]
Seat 6: SB (5310 in chips) [5.31bb]
Seat 7: BB (7134 in chips) [7.13bb]
Seat 9: EP1 (5960 in chips) [5.96bb]
Seat 1 MP1: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 2 MP2: posts the ante 60
Seat 3 MP3: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 CO: posts the ante 60
Seat 5 BTN: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 7 BB: posts the ante 60
Seat 9 EP1: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 7 BB: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 9 EP1: folds
Hero: raises 5853 to 6853 and is all-in
znovu par hand po tom.. radsej to pripadne zatocim aj proti sb,bb a mam sancu na dobry stack ako sa spoliehat nato ze ho vyradia a praskne bubble a ja budem stale short, right ?
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PokerStars Hand #96643340950: Tournament #714189389, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/04 16:29:40 CET [2013/04/04 10:29:40 ET]
Table '714189389 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BTN (6163 in chips) [6.16bb] - Hero
Seat 2: SB (12996 in chips) [13bb]
Seat 3: BB (7074 in chips) [7.07bb]
Seat 4: EP1 (13343 in chips) [13.34bb]
Seat 5: MP1 (7800 in chips) [7.8bb]
Seat 6: MP2 (5728 in chips) [5.73bb]
Seat 7: MP3 (876 in chips) [0.88bb]
Seat 9: CO (13520 in chips) [13.52bb]
Seat 1 BTN: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 2 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 3 BB: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 EP1: posts the ante 60
Seat 5 MP1: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 MP2: posts the ante 60
Seat 7 MP3: posts the ante 60
Seat 9 CO: posts the ante 60
Seat 2 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 3 BB: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 4 EP1: folds
Seat 5 MP1: folds
Seat 6 MP2: folds
Seat 7 MP3: calls 816 and is all-in
Seat 9 CO: folds
Hero: raises 5103 to 6103 and is all-in
r/f btn, a r/c tym shortom ? obv v pripade ze nepushnu obaja..
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PokerStars Hand #96643451930: Tournament #714192517, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2013/04/04 16:32:08 CET [2013/04/04 10:32:08 ET]
Table '714192517 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: CO (11040 in chips) [13.8bb] - Hero
Seat 4: BTN (11700 in chips) [14.63bb]
Seat 5: SB (2765 in chips) [3.46bb]
Seat 6: BB (4837 in chips) [6.05bb]
Seat 7: MP2 (21188 in chips) [26.49bb]
Seat 8: MP3 (15970 in chips) [19.96bb]
Seat 3 CO: posts the ante 50 - Hero
Seat 4 BTN: posts the ante 50
Seat 5 SB: posts the ante 50
Seat 6 BB: posts the ante 50
Seat 7 MP2: posts the ante 50
Seat 8 MP3: posts the ante 50
Seat 5 SB: posts small blind 400
Seat 6 BB: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 3) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 7 MP2: folds
Seat 8 MP3: folds
Hero: ??
bubble je to ez call ? podla wizu call ak pushuje viac ako 44%, villain 24/12/17hand...akurat su tam ti dvaja shorti ale vzhladom k tomuto limitu..
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PokerStars Hand #96642144276: Tournament #714176453, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/04 16:03:29 CET [2013/04/04 10:03:29 ET]
Table '714176453 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: BTN (1570 in chips) [1.57bb]
Seat 3: SB (7590 in chips) [7.59bb]
Seat 4: BB (7225 in chips) [7.23bb] - Hero
Seat 5: EP1 (30315 in chips) [30.32bb]
Seat 6: MP1 (9315 in chips) [9.32bb]
Seat 7: MP2 (1420 in chips) [1.42bb]
Seat 8: MP3 (4390 in chips) [4.39bb]
Seat 9: CO (5675 in chips) [5.68bb]
Seat 2 BTN: posts the ante 60
Seat 3 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 BB: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 5 EP1: posts the ante 60
Seat 6 MP1: posts the ante 60
Seat 7 MP2: posts the ante 60
Seat 8 MP3: posts the ante 60
Seat 9 CO: posts the ante 60
Seat 3 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 4 BB: posts big blind 1000 - Hero
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 4) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 5 EP1: folds
Seat 6 MP1: folds
Seat 7 MP2: folds
Seat 8 MP3: folds
Seat 9 CO: folds
Seat 2 BTN: folds
Seat 3 SB: raises 6530 to 7530 and is all-in
Hero: ??
villain HU staty 46/38/14hand.. je to sice za 18bb ale nerad tu nefoldujem pary aj ked viem ze idem vacsinou do flipu..
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PokerStars Hand #96642628749: Tournament #714176453, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2013/04/04 16:14:04 CET [2013/04/04 10:14:04 ET]
Table '714176453 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: SB (38560 in chips) [24.1bb] - Hero
Seat 5: BB (28940 in chips) [18.09bb]
Seat 4 SB: posts the ante 75 - Hero
Seat 5 BB: posts the ante 75
Seat 4 SB: posts small blind 800 - Hero
Seat 5 BB: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 4) Obrázek Obrázek
Hero: raises 1600 to 3200
Seat 5 BB: raises 25665 to 28865 and is all-in
Hero: ??
push/fold ?
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PokerStars Hand #96643761372: Tournament #714189389, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2013/04/04 16:39:04 CET [2013/04/04 10:39:04 ET]
Table '714189389 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: CO (10599 in chips) [6.62bb] - Hero
Seat 4: BTN (27612 in chips) [17.26bb]
Seat 5: SB (18668 in chips) [11.67bb]
Seat 9: BB (10621 in chips) [6.64bb]
Seat 1 CO: posts the ante 75 - Hero
Seat 4 BTN: posts the ante 75
Seat 5 SB: posts the ante 75
Seat 9 BB: posts the ante 75
Seat 5 SB: posts small blind 800
Seat 9 BB: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Hero:??
Naposledy upravil(a) dobyvateL dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Vocaaas
 sob 6. dub 2013 1:44:40
1) Nedivim se ti, flat tady nebude zadny zazracny reseni. To je push.
2) push
3) push
4) push
5) raise/foldovat s 13bb A7s na CO je spatne. Nejlepsi reseni bude open shove.
6) kvuli shortum je to lehce sick, nemel bys koncit moc casto na prime bubline. Ja bych ale TT v tomhle spote never fold.
Min.cash me nezajima :)
7) v HU 180manu bych to asi zahodil, zde nejspis call a flipnul bych to. Par taky nerad zahazuju, ale tady bych ho vystavil radeji rovnou do AI za 18bb nez raise/calloval.
8) push

Vim, ze je to dost strucny. Kdybys chtel neco podrobneji, dej vedet :) smolil jsem to narychlo.
Naposledy upravil(a) Vocaaas dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Kory8
 sob 6. dub 2013 2:16:21
Ta HU handa je podle mě správně s tím, že bys měl jít raise-call. Speciálně v HU je podle mě overshove za 18bb zbytečnost (obzvlášť když soupeř není nějak 50bb deep).
Naposledy upravil(a) Kory8 dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Vocaaas
 sob 6. dub 2013 2:29:10
Kory8 píše:Ta HU handa je podle mě správně s tím, že bys měl jít raise-call. Speciálně v HU je podle mě overshove za 18bb zbytečnost (obzvlášť když soupeř není nějak 50bb deep).
V HU turba se ti pary mezi 15-20bb vejdou. Nejsem zadnej specialista, ale v tomhle by problem byt nemel.

E: samozrejme u tech malych paru. Jinak chceme jit raise/call na induce obv.
Naposledy upravil(a) Vocaaas dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od dobyvateL
 sob 6. dub 2013 3:18:03
Thx guys.. ak si dobre pamatam prvu handu som foldol, dalsie push az na to A7s za 13bb tam som tiez tusim foldol.., TT call obv, 33 r/callol som, to sa mi pozdava viac, casto tu idem aj r/f s 18bb ,kedze btn otvaram vacsinu hand okrem trashu a a hlavne proti rybe ktora folduje,ciez ako induce je to good aj ked s tymito malymi parmi je to v podstate vzdy flip aj do random overs....poslednu handu som tiez foldol ale teraz by som tu pushol ako aj tu prvu AQs :)
Naposledy upravil(a) dobyvateL dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od Shagy1710
 sob 6. dub 2013 4:04:35
Kory8 píše:Ta HU handa je podle mě správně s tím, že bys měl jít raise-call. Speciálně v HU je podle mě overshove za 18bb zbytečnost (obzvlášť když soupeř není nějak 50bb deep).

Ono to nieje zbytocne, lebo take 22 alebo 33 niesu dobre na raise/call ( su ale tym spravis menisu EV ako pushom )

Zober si to tak ze raise/call 33 proti jeho neakej 25% reasteal range tak tvoje EV je 26.67 % Open push ti zarobi 27.02% proti normalnej calling range. TAkze lepsi tah je to rovno openpushovat. Prave tymy 22-44 nechceme velmi ten reasteal vyvolat

RAise/call zacne byt vyhodny ked super bude reraisovat viac ako 50% hand co nebudu robit hraci na tomto limite. Takze ten raise/call je tu :fish: play

Zase ak je hrac tight a hraje strasne malo OOP tak to je lepsie zase raise/foldovat . Musis mat k tomu aj neake statisiky.

Ale v klasickej hre reg vs reg toto je normalne openpush a v podstate sa s tym ani nic ine neda robit

Tie 22 maju aj tu nevyhodu ze ak dostanes call tak mas v podstate 2 outy. Takze to nieje prave idealne riesenie ;)
Naposledy upravil(a) Shagy1710 dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.
  od dobyvateL
 ned 7. dub 2013 17:24:51
Diky Shagy za objasnenie :poklona:

r/f BS a BB, r/c btn,sb ? push pf je podla wizu unexploitable ale 23bb pf sa mi nepozdava..
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PokerStars Hand #96761110666: Tournament #715344698, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2013/04/06 21:13:51 CET [2013/04/06 15:13:51 ET]
Table '715344698 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CO (4581 in chips) [22.91bb] - Hero
Seat 2: BTN (8425 in chips) [42.13bb]
Seat 3: SB (1675 in chips) [8.38bb]
Seat 4: BB (2085 in chips) [10.43bb]
Seat 5: EP1 (2595 in chips) [12.98bb]
Seat 6: MP1 (1525 in chips) [7.63bb]
Seat 7: MP2 (1335 in chips) [6.68bb]
Seat 9: MP3 (2580 in chips) [12.9bb]
Seat 3 SB: posts small blind 100
Seat 4 BB: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 5 EP1: folds
Seat 6 MP1: folds
Seat 7 MP2: folds
Seat 9 MP3: folds
Hero: raises 200 to 400
priama bubble, -EV spot, za mnou este vacsi short, push/fold ?
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PokerStars Hand #96760817066: Tournament #715330242, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2013/04/06 21:09:01 CET [2013/04/06 15:09:01 ET]
Table '715330242 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BTN (5692 in chips) [7.12bb]
Seat 2: SB (10915 in chips) [13.64bb]
Seat 3: BB (4236 in chips) [5.3bb]
Seat 4: EP1 (14417 in chips) [18.02bb]
Seat 5: MP1 (2405 in chips) [3.01bb] - Hero
Seat 7: MP2 (1730 in chips) [2.16bb]
Seat 8: MP3 (15735 in chips) [19.67bb]
Seat 9: CO (12370 in chips) [15.46bb]
Seat 1 BTN: posts the ante 50
Seat 2 SB: posts the ante 50
Seat 3 BB: posts the ante 50
Seat 4 EP1: posts the ante 50
Seat 5 MP1: posts the ante 50 - Hero
Seat 7 MP2: posts the ante 50
Seat 8 MP3: posts the ante 50
Seat 9 CO: posts the ante 50
Seat 2 SB: posts small blind 400
Seat 3 BB: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 5) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 4 EP1: folds
Hero: ??
FT last 9, A5s s 4.5bb ide na nas BB, hrame na 1. miesto nie na mincash, takze je to good -EV push, right ?
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PokerStars Hand #96762772684: Tournament #715344698, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2013/04/06 21:40:38 CET [2013/04/06 15:40:38 ET]
Table '715344698 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: EP1 (3669 in chips) [4.59bb] - Hero
Seat 2: EP2 (15491 in chips) [19.36bb]
Seat 3: MP1 (6375 in chips) [7.97bb]
Seat 4: MP2 (10766 in chips) [13.46bb]
Seat 5: MP3 (11909 in chips) [14.89bb]
Seat 6: CO (1340 in chips) [1.68bb]
Seat 7: BTN (4468 in chips) [5.59bb]
Seat 8: SB (5260 in chips) [6.58bb]
Seat 9: BB (8222 in chips) [10.28bb]
Seat 1 EP1: posts the ante 50 - Hero
Seat 2 EP2: posts the ante 50
Seat 3 MP1: posts the ante 50
Seat 4 MP2: posts the ante 50
Seat 5 MP3: posts the ante 50
Seat 6 CO: posts the ante 50
Seat 7 BTN: posts the ante 50
Seat 8 SB: posts the ante 50
Seat 9 BB: posts the ante 50
Seat 8 SB: posts small blind 400
Seat 9 BB: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 1) Obrázek Obrázek
Hero: raises 2819 to 3619 and is all-in
je to az taky icm fail pushnut to ? podla wizu to je ~-0.3%EV pri tight ranges..jednoznacne si musim nastudovat icm lebo zjavne tomu nerozumiem :)
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PokerStars Hand #96762222704: Tournament #715339052, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/04/06 21:32:11 CET [2013/04/06 15:32:11 ET]
Table '715339052 3' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SB (8489 in chips) [8.49bb]
Seat 3: BB (7223 in chips) [7.22bb]
Seat 4: MP3 (8759 in chips) [8.76bb] - Hero
Seat 7: CO (27106 in chips) [27.11bb]
Seat 9: BTN (15923 in chips) [15.92bb]
Seat 1 SB: posts the ante 60
Seat 3 BB: posts the ante 60
Seat 4 MP3: posts the ante 60 - Hero
Seat 7 CO: posts the ante 60
Seat 9 BTN: posts the ante 60
Seat 1 SB: posts small blind 500
Seat 3 BB: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 4) Obrázek Obrázek
Hero: raises 7699 to 8699 and is all-in
napr aj tato handa so 4bb mozem callnut ak on bude posielat <32%(co nebude) a aj tak to nebude moc ziskove
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PokerStars Hand #96750074399: Tournament #715230732, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2013/04/06 17:37:28 CET [2013/04/06 11:37:28 ET]
Table '715230732 5' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: BB (16970 in chips) [10.61bb]
Seat 3: MP3 (9999 in chips) [6.25bb]
Seat 5: CO (26584 in chips) [16.62bb]
Seat 6: BTN (6838 in chips) [4.27bb] - Hero
Seat 7: SB (7109 in chips) [4.44bb]
Seat 2 BB: posts the ante 75
Seat 3 MP3: posts the ante 75
Seat 5 CO: posts the ante 75
Seat 6 BTN: posts the ante 75 - Hero
Seat 7 SB: posts the ante 75
Seat 7 SB: posts small blind 800
Seat 2 BB: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 6) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 3 MP3: folds
Seat 5 CO: raises 24909 to 26509 and is all-in
Hero: calls 6763 and is all-in
Obrázek

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podla wizu never call, lepsi spot asi nebude mam 2bb A9s a vs jeho range som good, but icm..
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PokerStars Hand #96759929668: Tournament #715315362, $1.36+$0.14 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2013/04/06 20:51:51 CET [2013/04/06 14:51:51 ET]
Table '715315362 5' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SB (6206 in chips) [3.88bb]
Seat 4: BB (19948 in chips) [12.47bb]
Seat 5: MP2 (5727 in chips) [3.58bb]
Seat 6: MP3 (16040 in chips) [10.03bb]
Seat 8: CO (3236 in chips) [2.02bb] - Hero
Seat 9: BTN (16343 in chips) [10.21bb]
Seat 1 SB: posts the ante 75
Seat 4 BB: posts the ante 75
Seat 5 MP2: posts the ante 75
Seat 6 MP3: posts the ante 75
Seat 8 CO: posts the ante 75 - Hero
Seat 9 BTN: posts the ante 75
Seat 1 SB: posts small blind 800
Seat 4 BB: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (Seat 8) Obrázek Obrázek
Seat 5 MP2: raises 4052 to 5652 and is all-in
Seat 6 MP3: folds
Hero: calls 3161 and is all-in
Naposledy upravil(a) dobyvateL dne ned 5. říj 2014 17:52:34, celkem upraveno 1 x.